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On the Road – Goa, India Transcript

Corey: [00:00:00] welcome to small worlds podcast. My name is Corey  today. We’re going to be talking about doing India. We’re going to take you through. Some of the history of India, smallest state who should go and win some itinerary suggestions. And we’re going to end it off with an interview and jam session with local Gianna.


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Evidence of the Portuguese rule is everywhere from the architecture. Most of the buildings are this European style. Let’s pretend that’s a word. Super colorful on this. Just a general laid back atmosphere from the people on the environment.

Corey: [00:02:20] Anyway, it’s not as hectic as other places in India that we’ve been to so far.

Lianne: [00:02:27] And there’s also an abundance of Catholic churches, which is quite unexpected in India.

Corey: [00:02:31] Yeah. So Goa kind of had its initial setup. Bryson in the early sixties, after it came through and took it back over from the Portuguese late sixties and seventies, it becomes a point on the map for people traveling the hippie trail,

Lianne: [00:02:48] check out more online.

If you do not know

Corey: [00:02:51] if you love anything about travel, that is a pretty cool little way from Europe to India and even getting down into Australia that people came and started discovering these areas back in that time. But Oh, it has its little, another little revolution in the nineties and early two thousands with the introducing of the psychedelic trance electronic scene.

And it comes in and makes personnel legendary parties. These have slowly become smaller over time as the government has interviewed just saying, we don’t necessarily want this to be a big drug and party scene, but we like the money that comes in from the tourism. So we’re not going to put the kibosh on it completely.

The party the parties remain, but they’re just not quite what they are. We’re as not all scenes last forever. So the end who goes to go,

Lianne: [00:03:40] the policy goes the beach dwellers and sun worshipers and the yogis.

Corey: [00:03:46] Yeah. You’re going to see anything from a sunrise yoga session to a late night drum circles, and even surfers will be pleasantly surprised if that swell kicks up

Lianne: [00:03:56] the best time to go.

Wa  is between late October through too much. And between that time, the busiest is definitely Christmas and new year. Hey, you can kind of expect the crowds to multiply the buildings, to multiply on the prices to also multiply everyone kind of flux here for the party season on some winter sunshine outside of this at this time.

There’s monsoons. So that is definitely not recommended. We hear it. It’s pretty treacherous.

Corey: [00:04:24] It’s bad.

Lianne: [00:04:25] Real bad.

Corey: [00:04:26] Yeah. So if you’re coming here, there’s plenty of ways to do it from the low end to high end budgets. I think that this place can be done as cheap as 20 bucks a day. Without losing much of your comforts that’s going to get you a spot on the close to the beach of not on the beach, depending on when you’re here.

That’d be five to 10 bucks a day. You can get pretty solid meals for under five bucks. Easily. And then from there just kind of depends on how much you want to want to spend on parties and excursions. If you’re looking at the high end of things, we’ve seen resorts here that are renting places, renting really nice to Lux rooms at a five-star place for over $200 a day.

So it really just kind of caters to every type of traveler. But if you are a budget backpacker, that should be on your destination. If you’re coming to this area, because it is beautiful is cheap and you can get by and have some really amazing food, some really great accommodation and not really break the bank too much

Lianne: [00:05:25] to get here.

People arrive via the go international airport, which lies bang smack in the middle between North and South Goa, which did you really different areas. And if you do have the time, which we’ll talk about in our next segment you should definitely check out the two and see which one is for you. The North.

Aside as being more of a hippie side with more of a nightlife and a few more markets and things like that. Whereas the South is more of a resort type of place. You’ve got the results and then outside of the results, you pretty much have very much local areas.

Corey: [00:05:57] Yeah. So if you’re going to come here, we’d like to try and.

So just a few itineraries for you. Not everybody has the same amount of time. Not everybody travels in the same way. So we kind of like to cover all of that. So if you’re coming to Goa and you’ve got one week, we’d say, find yourself a beach for an accommodation. Spend your days and join morning yoga sessions, the cooler Arabian sea, maybe getting some $5 massages on the beach, happy hour sunsets, and check out a late night dance party or two,

Lianne: [00:06:26] if you’ve got two weeks, why don’t you step that up?

Do all of the above and enjoy the general atmosphere of. But then if you’re feeling a bit more explorative, is that word exploitative that works. Why don’t you rent a motorbike or if you’re a bit more worried about driving here just, and to drive it for the day and just explode the inland, there’s an abundance of waterfalls and faults.

And if you, the inland isn’t really a thing and you miss the ocean. There’s so many beets. All offering something

Corey: [00:06:56] different. Yeah. Go up and down the coast. But if you’ve got two weeks, make sure that you check out both the North and the South get a feel for both of them. See what you like more, because we think that you’re going to want to come back.

So if you’ve got yourself a month or more, go ahead and rent an apartment, you’re going to save some money. That way it’s going to be furnished. It’s going to have a

Lianne: [00:07:15] kitchen, which you probably won’t use because the food is so cheap and so delicious

Corey: [00:07:20] as much as possible. Guys, don’t bother making your own food here though.

Let the pros take over. But if you’ve got that amount of time, why not take a yoga teacher training course, you can become a surf instructor if you want, and be sure to spend some adequate time in both the North and the South, again, to experience this tropical paradise. No, we’ve got hot tips with lean.

Lianne: [00:07:43] Hello, I’m Leanne. And here’s my HUD tips. Just make sure you hit on a Saturday because there is an absolutely amazing Saturday night market and our poorer. It’s also known as. And goes night market when you are searching for this, do be careful. Cause there are about full night markets and assassinate at night in this area.

But if you get a ride there they’ll know where to go. You can find it on Google maps as well. Basically here, it’s this humongous night market as so many trinkets dresses jewelry that you can buy. There’s also live music above so much food and there’s even a DJ. That for those who want to continue after hours for the girls, a good tip for you go, it is not like the rest of India.

I’m sure the girls are all a little bit worried about end. It kind of has a bad rep for the female travelers, honestly, as a blonde girl, this has been my most, the most. Ease that I’ve had in India. You can wear a bikini on the beach. You can wear your shorts and a crop top is you’re not going to get the stares of the grabs that I’ve experienced in other parts of India.

Obviously if you’re leaving the beach area, just be respectful of the local culture, but you can it’s okay. It’s more relaxed. It’s more poach gears, like we said earlier.

Corey: [00:08:55] I think these are pretty good tips. I think you definitely got to check out the market. It it’s India, but it has a different feel than being Indian.

I think once you get here, as long as you’ve experienced another part of India, you’ll understand what that means, but don’t take our word for it.

Lianne: [00:09:11] Listen to Jenna.

Corey: [00:09:14] But first go ahead. Do us a favor and go ahead. Subscribe. You want me to read it? So we are here in the lovely North Goa beaches of ahead.

Lianne: [00:09:27] You mean the beaches of North Goa India?

Yeah. Yeah. That one.

Corey: [00:09:30] Yeah. And we’re here with Jana as the locals might say,

Lianne: [00:09:35] Oh, Jonathan, as his mother might say

Jono: [00:09:38] hello. Hello. And so to give a little background on Jonno American accent. Japanese raised British passport, British passport, whereas confused as you so

Lianne: [00:09:51] still trying to figure it out, but you American British Japanese, Indian combination.

Give us a brief history of your life and goer and how you came to be here.

Jono: [00:10:03] Speed, introductions speed dating. Basically my parents are were, or they still are two kind of English hippies who dropped out and ended up traveling the world. Doing good wherever they could. And I grew up with them on that road really.

And it took me through a bunch of really cool countries when I was a tiny baby, which I don’t remember. And then we ended up in Japan when I was about five and around the age of 12, my dad started to take us young people from Japan to India to show us. Something more than just what we knew. And I loved it.

I thought it was the wild West and that anything was possible. And I, in particular, I wanted to be able to paint my giant Michael Jordan on the side of a house. And I just thought, well, this is a country with us. Possible. And that’s kind of what kept me here. When, when I was 15, we did another trip and we came to Goa up until then we just visited a few other cities in India.

And I hadn’t really felt quite at home. Although I knew India was a place to be and we came to go and I was like, yep, this is it. And yeah, this is where it got unique because at 15 you went to your parents and told them I figured it out. And they were like, Oh, okay. He

Lianne: [00:11:27] has his life. How did you figure

Jono: [00:11:30] it out?

I mean, my parents are both seekers, you know, they’ve, they’re really, they really believe in the search. And so when I told them I know what I want to do with the rest of my life, they were, they stopped and listened. And basically I told them I wanted to be the kid that was taking the beach beds out in the morning from the beach shack and laying them out for the tourists and then pulling them back in the evening.

And they were kind of okay with it. They weren’t like super impressed. I’ll be honest.

Lianne: [00:11:57] You at least get direction, Mexicans that have a fucking clue or they want to do. Yep.

Jono: [00:12:01] So, so I kind of basically have been doing that in varying degrees and you know, different, different ways. Yeah. That’s kind of been me for the last while, so yeah.

I’ve been in Goa for close to 20 years. Yep. How has, what was it like and how has it changed since you first arrived? Because I’m pretty sure that’s pretty vast. Yeah. I mean, to be honest, when I, like, I arrived here, like I said, when I was 15. And so my first my first interaction was. You know, like kind of that of a 15 year old, I was playing football on the beach and running around, kicking, kicking a ball and hanging out in monsoon and, you know, just being a kid kind of thing.

But I was always aware that there was this, there was this crazy world going on around me and go on. And there was all these people who just basically everybody was really free. That was kind of the feeling I got the feeling that’s still here

Lianne: [00:12:57] is that you had, sir,

Jono: [00:12:58] Started, it was the season of 99 and 2020 years Y2K.

Yeah. Big, big change. And yeah, I mean, it, like, in those days there was a lot of the big party still going on. I I did meet people that told me, no, you’re too late. You missed it. The, you know, You should have been here years ago.

Lianne: [00:13:22] Is that not the same everywhere though? Everyone says that now, right? Oh, you should have been here.

What it was like.


Jono: [00:13:32] What I’ve noticed in the last years or the time that I’ve been here has just been development. Basically India, India has changed a lot. India has a. Middle-class suddenly infrastructures a lot better, or at least a lot broader. And yeah, it’s the scene’s changed in that. Now we have domestic, we have people from India coming to Goa before it was pretty much just foreigners.

The foreigners that are coming. Are a lot of Russians people from all over before it was mostly hippies or retired, retired English people. So yeah, that’s one of the ways it’s changed

Lianne: [00:14:10] in your comparison between North Korea and South Goa. Imagine someone’s wants to come here and they’re like, okay.

Jono: [00:14:16] Where do I go? It’s

Lianne: [00:14:17] a big place. They’ve got a two week vacation. Where did they go? North or South? What, what are the differences that you can outline?

Jono: [00:14:25] Well, first of all, I would do, I would do a week in each. And the, I would say that the, the North, the North in general is just more busy. There’s more going on.

There’s there’s more restaurants and hotels and things in a much smaller area than, than in the South, the South, but the end, the feeling of the South kind of mirrors that it’s really it’s much slower. Even the local people just move a lot slower. It’s a lot. You know, people kind of say, Oh, it’s a lot more like Goa used to be.

But that’s, that’s, it’s always been that way. It’s always been a lot slower and a lot less hectic. But in some ways, a little bit more boring, there’s not as much going on.

Lianne: [00:15:05] Yeah,

Jono: [00:15:06] absolutely. But there is also some really beautiful, peaceful places in the North as well. And there’s some lovely happening places in the South.

Lianne: [00:15:14] Peaceful places right now. Like just North of Mander, I guess where we are now. Where of right now at this point of year, anyway, just before the season, mid to late November. There’s not a lot of crowds that if you go North a little bit, there’s so much, if you go South a little bit so much, I feel like we’re in a good hotspot here.

Jono: [00:15:33] Yeah. This is a little pocket. Yes. Yeah. It’s there’s so an old HAPE he taught me something. He was like any of the cool places in Goa, the places which are really worth going to don’t have a road. Yeah. It’s like, if you can easily drive there, it’s probably not worth going

Lianne: [00:15:48] to

Jono: [00:15:49] that’s it. And if there’s someone that’s coming to go for the first time, what is an experience that they’d need to have.

In order to say, I haven’t been to Goa and I’ve, I’ve done it. Okay. There’s a lot that you could put in there and everybody, I guess, is gonna, I’m really depends on what you’re after, but I would say the one quintessential experience is sit down, facing out to sea and watch the sunset just shut up.

Whatever’s going on around you just be quiet. Let the sun go from right there until it’s not there. Yeah,

Lianne: [00:16:27] I do have to say for install was funds out there. It’s like looking out at the sun setting and tattooing. It’s like big and red does not two of them. There’s only one, but still it’s like the most beautiful sunset I think I’ve ever seen.

I am an a, but that’s okay. Because I’m mostly female, so it’s okay.

Jono: [00:16:45] Totally. Okay. Totally. Okay. Answer that I probably was expecting, but I think that I agree because I just think Indian said sense in general are unique because of the Hadiths.

Lianne: [00:16:57] Alicia. Beautiful. We didn’t know where it is, but it makes it beautiful, whatever it is, it really works in the favor.

Jono: [00:17:03] Absolutely. And actually, you know, to be honest and go the, the locals have never really valued the, the seaside you know, the, the farming isn’t good here. It’s difficult. It’s stormy. And the monsoons. But the one thing that they all do appreciate is sunset time. And it’s the, it’s the time when the locals actually come down to the beach and you’ll see everybody just having a good walk, the walk up and down the beach, they do it at sunrise as well.

But there’s definitely more. Of them on the beach at sunset and everybody just kind of walks up and down or people sit down and we all kind of let that moment

that’s it. And you will find ourselves sometimes a little bit, a little bit lost in our busy world here in paradise. And if you’ve realized that you’ve gone a couple of days without watching a sunset, that’s a little bit, you know, a little alarm bells, just a little notice. Absolutely. And if you haven’t sat and watched the sunset, then you might need to 

Lianne: [00:18:09] the arrows and do it.

So to end this lovely brief. Interview number one, you should come to Goa. And if you are on the way, don’t forget to come and visit surf Weller. South iron bar. We do have, we will have an actual directions in our show notes and a link to their website. The end of if you’re not a fan of guitars, Ted enough now, but we have Corey and Jenna going to sing a song that I don’t know.

Jono: [00:18:38] Jimmy buffet classic.

you’ve seen it.

You’ve seen it.

Lianne: [00:21:03] Thank you. Bye. Beautiful. So guys, don’t forget to check out our website, to keep up with all of our upcoming photos, travel podcasts, blog posts, videos. Et cetera, et cetera.

Jono: [00:21:21] Yeah, we are trying to do it all on the website. So you can go there for anything that you need from us. And we just want to say thank you very much.

This will be the last episode that we’re dropping here in 2019 2020 is right around the corner. So get out there and enjoy the holidays with your loved ones and from Leanne and I thank you very much and we’ll see you next year.

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